lou: not according to nancy pelosi. i don't know if you saw. we reported up the top. >> i didn't. lou: the minority leader actually said, you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. i mean, this is the kind of mentality that speaker boehner must confront and deal with. one would think that would be a winner for him, but apparently not. >> i'm saying i am puzzled by the fact that he does not emphasize that much more andd3 really say, i'm not going to talk but taxes. taxes is not on the table until the president comes forward with the plan on entitlements. lou: you are a formidable negotiator in your own right, experience, and i just want to ask you. why would anyone who is the leader of the republican party, frankly in a position, not insist upon dealing with the president who has the superior power, the superior position and advantage, not insist that any negotiation be at a specific table with specific parameters and in the -- end this nonsense that is at the periphery in permeate -- permeating the media >> that's right. well, the president, and this is one of the reasons why t